{"id":131,"date":"2017-01-30T09:19:25","date_gmt":"2017-01-30T09:19:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/dominiclevent.com\/blog\/?p=131"},"modified":"2019-04-17T17:19:49","modified_gmt":"2019-04-17T17:19:49","slug":"interview-andrew-langdon-qc","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/dominiclevent.com\/blog\/interview-andrew-langdon-qc\/","title":{"rendered":"Interview: Andrew Langdon QC"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>Criminal silk Andrew Langdon used his inaugural speech as chairman of the bar in December to relate his unusual journey to the leadership.<\/p>\n<p>When Haile Selassie was overthrown as emperor of Ethiopia in 1974, Langdon\u2019s parents were in the country working on a farm. The family was forced to flee at gunpoint and came to England as refugees. As Selassie did in the 1930s, they settled in the West Country (the emperor chose Bath); unlike Selassie, the family made the move with no money. \u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Langdon is still based in the region providing, he told his audience, a service \u2018for those that need it\u2019.<\/p>\n<p>He attended a local school and then read law at Bristol University, but he had no intention of becoming a lawyer. However, after attending court he discovered his passion for advocacy and the \u2018public service\u2019 performed by barristers and the wider legal profession.<\/p>\n<p>\u2018Few outside the profession think of the bar as providing a public service. In fact, our contribution to the delivery of justice is immense and largely unsung,\u2019 he says. It is when that contribution is forgotten that \u2018things go wrong; not just in individual cases but for society\u2019.<\/p>\n<p>A few weeks into his new role Langdon is keen to reiterate the importance of the work done by barristers \u2013 and solicitors. Both branches must come together, he argues, to ensure that the public service he so values is retained.<\/p>\n<p>The common interests of the Bar Council and Law Society \u2018absolutely coincide\u2019, he insists \u2013 specifically on plans for a blanket extension of fixed recoverable costs, cuts to advocacy fee schemes and changes in technology which could see the court system partially morph into an online portal.<\/p>\n<p>Turning first to fixed recoverable costs, a further review of which was announced before Christmas, Langdon alludes to the obvious access to justice issues for \u2018those we jointly serve\u2019. A blanket extension for all claims up to \u00a3250,000, favoured by Lord Justice Jackson, who leads the latest review, is in the pipeline.<\/p>\n<p>\u2018The clue\u2019s in the name, really,\u2019 says Langdon. \u2018It\u2019s one-size-fits-all. The prospect of there being an extension of the sort that is potentially on the cards, both vertically up to \u00a3250,000 and horizontally across the spread, not just personal injury and motor claims, raises issues common to both branches of the profession.<\/p>\n<p>\u2018Even if costs are necessary and reasonably incurred, they are liable not to be recovered. This has obvious consequences for those wondering if they can afford litigation.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>He adds: \u2018The more difficult cases are more resource-intensive and there will be a disinclination to take on those cases, if we\u2019re not careful. This skews the result in a way I don\u2019t think is good for potential and deserving claimants.\u2019<\/p>\n<div class=\"factfile\">\n<p><strong>Biography<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>EDUCATION<\/strong> LLB, University of Bristol<\/p>\n<p><strong>ROLES<\/strong> pupil at Guildhall Chambers, 1986; appointed QC, 2006<\/p>\n<p><strong>KNOWN FOR<\/strong> chairman of the bar, 2017; defended Shauna Hoare in Becky Watts (Bristol) murder trial, 2015; lead prosecution counsel in the Buncefield oil depot explosion case<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>For Langdon, not enough attention has been paid to the efficacy of the systems currently in place for their mid- to long-term consequences to have been analysed \u2013 namely fixed recoverable costs in the fast-track and costs budgeting.<\/p>\n<p>\u2018The impression I get is that solicitors and the bar have got cleverer, better and more nuanced in their understanding of how they can make costs budgeting work. An approach to a sensible way of trying to meet the public interest in keeping costs proportionate hasn\u2019t really been given enough of a chance to develop or demonstrate itself.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>Langdon is working with the Society and its president Robert Bourns \u2013 \u2018a friend of old\u2019 with whom he shares \u2018pretty much identical concerns\u2019 \u2013 to address these issues.<\/p>\n<p>Not wholly identical however; the two branches of the profession appear at odds over more recent proposals surrounding criminal defence advocacy fees.<\/p>\n<p>Earlier this month, the Ministry of Justice said \u2018outdated\u2019 factors, such as the number of pages in a case, would no longer determine fees. Instead payments will be based on the seriousness and complexity of work. The scheme, last reformed in 2007, pays criminal defence advocates for representing those accused of crimes in the Crown court.<\/p>\n<p>According to the MoJ, total expenditure on self-employed QCs would increase by around 10%.<\/p>\n<p>The Law Society was quick to criticise, warning that junior barristers and solicitor-advocates will lose out while QCs would receive a pay hike. Langdon, however, says it is \u2018misleading\u2019 to speak of a 10% rise for QCs. \u2018Actually, compared to where we were five years ago, we\u2019re still considerably less well off in the more demanding cases,\u2019 he says.<\/p>\n<p>He believes the reformed scheme will actually amount to a hike in rewards for those that take on the \u2018heaviest and most challenging cases\u2019, which will also apply to juniors: \u2018The proposals will encourage good advocacy and the retention of advocates interested in a real career as criminal advocates.<\/p>\n<p>\u2018It\u2019s my focus to ensure that if this scheme comes in, we continue to make representations on behalf of both parts of the profession [solicitor-advocates and barristers] that there needs to be better investment in higher court advocacy.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>Langdon\u2019s fondness for the work of advocates is clear\u2013 he speaks of their \u2018oratorical prowess\u2019, holding authority to account and, again, their role in providing a public service.<\/p>\n<p>Asked whether he agrees with a recent claim by former justice secretary Michael Gove that solicitor-advocates provide a \u2018second-class\u2019 service and should be overlooked in favour of barristers, Langdon says it would be \u2018unwise\u2019 to generalise.<\/p>\n<p>\u2018There are some extremely good higher court advocates, there are some extremely poor barristers,\u2019 he says. \u2018Having said that, we have no hesitation in pointing to the fact that our profession is about advocacy. That is how we\u2019re trained \u2013 from our initial qualification, 12 months of pupillage, the chambers setup \u2013 the whole thing is designed to improve the best advocates and we\u2019re very proud of that. We consider ourselves to be the bespoke advocacy branch of the profession.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>Returning to fees, Langdon offers a reminder that there are still lingering concerns about a potential 8.75% cut to the litigators\u2019 graduated fee scheme. The second fee cut was suspended for a year last April.<\/p>\n<p>Promising to oppose the plans \u2018at every opportunity\u2019, Langdon says that through his work as a criminal practitioner, he can see that many solicitor firms are \u2018barely surviving\u2019. \u2018The nature of their work is important, not just for the criminal justice system but for society,\u2019 he says. \u2018These are firms of solicitors working in some of the most difficult and deprived areas of the country. They\u2019re actually part of the fabric. If you knock them out by continuing with cuts you will cause untold problems, not just in the criminal justice system but elsewhere. This will end up costing much, much more.<\/p>\n<p>\u2018I\u2019m fervently hoping that the government can be persuaded not to make this additional cut. It will do no one any favours. It won\u2019t do the criminal justice system any good and it won\u2019t do society any good. It will be a very short-sighted step.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>The prospect of further cuts and uncertainty comes amid plans for a \u00a31bn court modernisation programme.<\/p>\n<p>If implemented, the MoJ\u2019s proposals could see some hearings dealt with entirely online, with courts and judges required to embrace new technology.<\/p>\n<p>Langdon says that although \u2018some form of online process would be beneficial\u2019, it is important not to \u2018overstep the mark\u2019. \u00a0<\/p>\n<p>The plans, announced in September, would see defendants in less serious cases plead guilty online. A new online court for monetary claims of up to \u00a325,000 was also proposed by Lord Justice Briggs in July. \u2018Simply because it is technologically possible to have virtual hearings, of one sort or another, it doesn\u2019t necessarily mean we should have them,\u2019 he warns.<\/p>\n<p>\u2018I\u2019ve been in courts for 30 years and I know that when you\u2019re physically in a courtroom, there are countless times, with any type of hearing, where the penny will drop. A judge will suddenly understand what the dynamic is, the jury will suddenly understand, or the witness will suddenly understand. Something will happen because it\u2019s a human interaction.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>He adds: \u2018You\u2019ve got to draw the line differently in different places, depending on the type of case you\u2019re talking about and certainly the field of law you\u2019re talking about.<\/p>\n<p>\u2018So completely routine directions, where people have signalled, in advance that there\u2019s to be no argument, then obviously it\u2019s unnecessary and a waste of time for everyone to turn up. But I think the default position should be that a hearing is in court, unless a judge has decided that it shouldn\u2019t be.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>With root-and-branch reforms again on the horizon, what are his hopes for the future?<\/p>\n<p>In his inauguration speech, Langdon said he wants to make sure his work in 2017 focuses on opening the door wider to \u2018young, socially diverse talent, all of it undoubtedly in the public interest\u2019. 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