{"id":225466,"date":"2024-02-19T13:59:46","date_gmt":"2024-02-19T13:59:46","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/dominiclevent.com\/blog\/?p=225466"},"modified":"2024-02-19T13:59:46","modified_gmt":"2024-02-19T13:59:46","slug":"im-a-boss-please-ban-me-from-out-of-hours-emails-and-calls-and-save-me-from-myself-andre-spice","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/dominiclevent.com\/blog\/im-a-boss-please-ban-me-from-out-of-hours-emails-and-calls-and-save-me-from-myself-andre-spice\/","title":{"rendered":"I\u2019m a boss \u2013 please ban me from out-of-hours emails and calls, and save me from myself | Andr\u00e9 Spice&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<p class=\"dcr-vmkf2w\"><span style=\"color:var(--drop-cap);font-weight:200;\" class=\"dcr-1ipjagz\">I<\/span> have a secret that I need to own up to: sometimes I\u2019m a bad boss. After spending a couple of decades studying management and leadership, during the last couple of years I have been leading a large business school in London. When I took on the role, I wanted to try to bring an evidence-based approach to my leadership position, and initially I used the relevant science to guide my actions. Over time, however, I found myself falling into bad habits that I knew were a no-no, according to the research.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-vmkf2w\">One of these was contacting my co-workers out of working hours. I knew there was plenty of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.researchgate.net\/publication\/319542297_Voluntary_Work-related_Technology_Use_during_Non-work_Time_A_Narrative_Synthesis_of_Empirical_Research_and_Research_Agenda\" data-link-name=\"in body link\">research<\/a> that finds that out-of-work-hours communication is generally bad for employee wellbeing, and can also be bad for productivity. However, this didn\u2019t stop me. Some mornings, I would find myself sending colleagues emails at 5am. In the evening, I would be messaging at 10pm. During the weekends, I would find myself firing off documents to colleagues and asking for comments.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-vmkf2w\">As with any bad habit, I tried to stop myself doing it. I limited my out-of-hours communication. I tried not to check in during holidays. I learned about technical solutions to schedule my emails so they would arrive during office hours. Despite all this, I still wasn\u2019t entirely successful. And I know that I am not alone. Many people find it difficult to stop themselves making work-related communications outside working hours.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-vmkf2w\">Now the law is stepping in, whether weak-willed managers like me like it or not. In 2017, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/money\/2016\/dec\/31\/french-workers-win-legal-right-to-avoid-checking-work-email-out-of-hours\" data-link-name=\"in body link\">France implemented a law<\/a> that required larger employers to put in place \u201cmechanisms for regulating the use of digital tools, with a view to ensuring respect for rest periods and leave as well as personal and family life\u201d. The French law was followed by similar right-to-disconnect laws in Italy, Slovakia, Luxembourg, Portugal and the Canadian province of Ontario, and the Labour party in the UK is proposing a \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/money\/2023\/may\/12\/labour-planning-right-to-switch-off-for-workers-if-it-wins-general-elections\" data-link-name=\"in body link\">right to switch off<\/a>\u201d. Now the Australian federal government has passed its own \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/australia-news\/2024\/feb\/07\/australia-right-to-switch-off-laws-industrial-relations-changes-labor-greens\" data-link-name=\"in body link\">right to disconnect<\/a>\u201d legislation. This makes it illegal to require employees to respond to communication or join work calls out of reasonable working hours. If there are persistent violations and they are not resolved at the workplace level, then an employee has the right to raise it with the Fair Work Commission. The commission can then hand down a fine of up to A$18,000 (\u00a39,300).<\/p>\n<figure id=\"fb579cc2-dfb0-4971-9dd2-9cb065bc69f5\" data-spacefinder-role=\"richLink\" data-spacefinder-type=\"model.dotcomrendering.pageElements.RichLinkBlockElement\" class=\" dcr-1your1i\"><gu-island name=\"RichLinkComponent\" priority=\"feature\" deferuntil=\"idle\" props=\"{&quot;richLinkIndex&quot;:4,&quot;element&quot;:{&quot;_type&quot;:&quot;model.dotcomrendering.pageElements.RichLinkBlockElement&quot;,&quot;prefix&quot;:&quot;Related: &quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Why Peter Dutton doesn\u2019t want the right to disconnect \u2013 podcast&quot;,&quot;elementId&quot;:&quot;fb579cc2-dfb0-4971-9dd2-9cb065bc69f5&quot;,&quot;role&quot;:&quot;richLink&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/australia-news\/audio\/2024\/feb\/14\/the-right-to-disconnect-laws-peter-dutton-productivity-full-story-podcast&quot;},&quot;ajaxUrl&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/api.nextgen.guardianapps.co.uk&quot;,&quot;format&quot;:{&quot;display&quot;:0,&quot;theme&quot;:1,&quot;design&quot;:8}}\" config=\"{&quot;renderingTarget&quot;:&quot;Web&quot;,&quot;darkModeAvailable&quot;:false}\"\/><\/figure>\n<p class=\"dcr-vmkf2w\">These kinds of laws have received inevitable pushback. Len Shackleton from the Institute of Economic Affairs thinktank, pointed out that right-to-disconnect rules will remove a <a href=\"https:\/\/iea.org.uk\/a-right-to-disconnect-will-undermine-flexibility-including-for-employees\" data-link-name=\"in body link\">degree of flexibility<\/a> required in fast-changing workplaces. Others have said the legislation does not go far enough. Opeyemi Akanbi of Toronto Metropolitan University <a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/the-right-to-disconnect-why-legislation-doesnt-address-the-real-problems-with-work-170941\" data-link-name=\"in body link\">pointed out<\/a> that rules are unlikely to be properly implemented by employers, and they don\u2019t address underlying problems such as the difficulty of disconnecting in highly fluid forms of knowledge work.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-vmkf2w\">While both these criticisms may be true, the evidence of the impact of right-to-disconnect laws in Europe seems to be relatively positive. A recent <a href=\"https:\/\/www.eurofound.europa.eu\/en\/publications\/2023\/right-disconnect-implementation-and-impact-company-level#:~:text=Eight%20out%20of%20ten%20workers,disconnect%20policy%20and%20those%20without.\" data-link-name=\"in body link\">large-scale study<\/a> found that eight out of 10 workers in companies received work-related communication out of working hours. What\u2019s more surprising is that there did not seem to be any difference for companies that were covered by right-to-disconnect legislation and those not. However, the laws did seem to make employees feel more in control of their work. This meant that people in companies covered by right-to-disconnect legislation tended to have higher job satisfaction, report better work-life balance and were less likely to suffer health issues such as headaches, stress and anxiety. Employees also seemed to like the new laws: 70% of workers in companies covered by the legislation said they had a positive impact.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-vmkf2w\">However, simply implementing laws is not enough. To make a difference they need to be accompanied by other measures such as education, effective means to limit out-of-hours communications (such as systems that stop emails being exchanged out of hours), and an appropriate match between workloads and working time.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"ddff0f9b-9672-4fc6-9e87-6c7740fe8bce\" data-spacefinder-role=\"richLink\" data-spacefinder-type=\"model.dotcomrendering.pageElements.RichLinkBlockElement\" class=\" dcr-1your1i\"><gu-island name=\"RichLinkComponent\" priority=\"feature\" deferuntil=\"idle\" props=\"{&quot;richLinkIndex&quot;:8,&quot;element&quot;:{&quot;_type&quot;:&quot;model.dotcomrendering.pageElements.RichLinkBlockElement&quot;,&quot;prefix&quot;:&quot;Related: &quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Labour planning \u2018right to switch off\u2019 for workers if it wins general election&quot;,&quot;elementId&quot;:&quot;ddff0f9b-9672-4fc6-9e87-6c7740fe8bce&quot;,&quot;role&quot;:&quot;richLink&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/money\/2023\/may\/12\/labour-planning-right-to-switch-off-for-workers-if-it-wins-general-elections&quot;},&quot;ajaxUrl&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/api.nextgen.guardianapps.co.uk&quot;,&quot;format&quot;:{&quot;display&quot;:0,&quot;theme&quot;:1,&quot;design&quot;:8}}\" config=\"{&quot;renderingTarget&quot;:&quot;Web&quot;,&quot;darkModeAvailable&quot;:false}\"\/><\/figure>\n<p class=\"dcr-vmkf2w\">While right-to-disconnect legislation seems to be good for workers, there is still the question of whether it also might be good for bosses. Although there has not been a systematic study of the question yet, my guess is that the answer would be a qualified yes. First, we know that workers tend to be <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nber.org\/system\/files\/chapters\/c0441\/c0441.pdf\" data-link-name=\"in body link\">more productive<\/a> over a longer period of time when they have better work-life balance and boundaries. Second, recent work by Stanford University\u2019s Robert Sutton and Huggy Rao <a href=\"https:\/\/www.penguin.co.uk\/books\/452450\/the-friction-project-by-rao-robert-sutton-and-huggy\/9780241594858\" data-link-name=\"in body link\">has found<\/a> that managers would be much more effective if they were able to reduce the needless clutter, such as empty communication and pointless meetings, that blights their own lives.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-vmkf2w\">Clear boundaries might be tough for managers like me to get their heads around. But perhaps a right to disconnect would force us to ensure our contracted work day was spent doing things that really matter.<\/p>\n<ul class=\"dcr-vmkf2w\">\n<li class=\"dcr-vmkf2w\">\n<p class=\"dcr-vmkf2w\">Andr\u00e9 Spicer is professor of organisational behaviour at the Bayes Business School at City, University of London. He is the author of the book <a href=\"https:\/\/guardianbookshop.com\/business-bullshit-9781138911673?utm_source=editoriallink&amp;utm_medium=merch&amp;utm_campaign=article\" data-link-name=\"in body link\">Business Bullshit<\/a><\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<p><br \/>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/commentisfree\/2024\/feb\/17\/right-disconnect-managers-australia-employees-calls-emails-britain\">Source link <\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.dominiclevent.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-19471\" src=\"https:\/\/dominiclevent.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/litigation-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"400\" height=\"350\" \/><\/a><br \/>\n<center><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/maps\/d\/u\/1\/embed?mid=1w4tN9mf5kVdBXUXTq2KvwE23NmpUzEna\" width=\"640\" height=\"480\"><\/iframe><br \/>\n<\/center><br \/>\n<center><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/calendar.google.com\/calendar\/embed?src=sc635csnrm8h9s9lq0cad6vkss@group.calendar.google.com\" style=\"border:0px #ffffff none;\" name=\"myiFrame\" scrolling=\"no\" frameborder=\"1\" marginheight=\"0px\" marginwidth=\"0px\" height=\"3px\" width=\"600px\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/center><br \/>\n<center><\/p>\n<div itemscope itemtype=\"http:\/\/schema.org\/LocalBusiness\">\n<div itemprop=\"image\" itemscope itemtype=\"http:\/\/schema.org\/ImageObject\">\n<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.dominiclevent.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Business_Solicitors_London.jpg\" width=\"600\" itemprop=\"url\"><\/div>\n<p><\/br><\/p>\n<div itemprop=\"name\">Dominic Levent Solicitors<\/div>\n<div>Email: <span itemprop=\"email\">Enquiries@dominiclevent.com<\/span><\/div>\n<div>Phone: <span itemprop=\"telephone\">020 8347 6640<\/span><\/div>\n<div>Url: <span itemprop=\"url\">https:\/\/www.dominiclevent.com<\/span><\/div>\n<div itemprop=\"paymentAccepted\"  style='display: none' >cash, check, credit card, invoice<\/div>\n<p>\t<meta itemprop=\"openingHours\"  style='display: none'  datetime=\"Mo,Tu,We,Th,Fr 09:30-17:30\" \/><\/p>\n<div itemtype=\"http:\/\/schema.org\/GeoCoordinates\" itemscope=\"\" itemprop=\"geo\">\n\t\t<meta itemprop=\"latitude\" content=\"51.632223\" \/><br \/>\n\t\t<meta itemprop=\"longitude\" content=\"0.1781417\" \/>\n\t<\/div>\n<div itemtype=\"http:\/\/schema.org\/PostalAddress\" itemscope=\"\" itemprop=\"address\">\n<div itemprop=\"streetAddress\">1345 High Rd<\/div>\n<div><span itemprop=\"addressLocality\">London<\/span>, <span itemprop=\"addressRegion\">London<\/span> <span itemprop=\"postalCode\">N20 9HR<\/span><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><\/center><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I have a secret that I need to own up to: sometimes I\u2019m a bad boss. 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